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The Resurrection
December 20, 2009, 8:10 am by dc-agape.
The Treatise on the Resurrection
I am changing gears for a number of reasons. First, I have lingered in the Dead Sea Scrolls for too long. I had thought that I would post on five additional Scrolls, but they are indeed very dry and very technical with little spiritual importance to modern day Theists. Secondly, the gotten bored. For the most important reason is that I have come to a much stronger conclusion that the Pauline doctrines of the New Testament should be questioned. Both Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi indicate a much stronger understanding and source for the teachings of Jesus. As a result, I want to go ahead and work on the Nag Hammadi library. The Treatise on the Resurrection is the next Scroll in this series.
The scholars who have studied this Treatise can place this document as part of the Valentinian Gnostic doctrine. The same scholars placed writing of this Treatise near the end of the second century CE. This was a period of time in the new Christian religion where the concept of the Resurrection had not been firmly established. Questions still abound as to whether the Resurrection would occur before death, immediately after death, or At the Second Coming (the Judgment Day). More questions were still related an unresolved about whether the body, the soul, the mind, or a combination of these three would occur during the Resurrection. This Treatise leaves no doubt in the mind of the reader exactly what the author understands will occur as part of the Resurrection.
The author of the Treatise does add one additional concept that is left out of modern Christianity. It is certainly not a new one, but it is one that has been forgotten but almost all of today’s denominations. The author indicates that once the Truth is known about death and the Resurrection one has already been resurrected. As a result, one should live a life as If they already possess the new resurrected body. In other words, outwardly the believer should live a life free from the worldly nature of humankind.
This concept is truly appealing to a gay Atheist. First of all, this Treatise does indicate that predestination elects the believer. No amount of persuasion is involved in believing in this religion, it is truly based on faith. Second of all, this Treatise indicates that Christians should be noticeably different from the mortal unbelieving human. Both these attributes fit what is observed in today’s modern Christian religion. In other words, the unbeliever cannot be persuaded to have faith, and this faithful should not be identical (in nature) to the unbeliever. Since neither of these concepts are applied in modern Churches it becomes obvious that the Valentinian faith is more accurate than the Pauline religion.
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A Heavy Implication
December 18, 2009, 8:38 am by dc-agape.
The Coming of the Melchizedek
This Scroll is barely a page long and is somewhat fragmented. The author(s) of this Scroll intended it to be a true interpretation of the Jubilee year, which occurred every 49 years. Numerous Old Testament scripture has been used to explain the Yahad’s personal interpretation of the Jubilee year. The Scroll is also filled with prophecy. Unfortunately, this does not mean the prophecies took place. The suggestion of using Bible verses to claim a prophecy will be fulfilled at a specific time is not a sign of a miracle. This Scroll is a good example of how verses can be taken out of context and put in a future environment where they will lead to a “prophecy”. The people of the time could not prove that the prophecy was wrong, and those people that lived when the prophecy was supposed to take place no longer knew that a prophecy had ever been written. I will explain more about that and introduce the Old Testament verses that were used to create a false prophecy.
Lev 25:13 “’ In this Year of Jubilee everyone is returned to his own property.
Deut 15:2 This is how it is to be done: every creditor show cancel the loan he is made to this fellow Israelite. He shall not require payments from his fellow Israelite or brother, because the Lord’s time for canceling debts has been proclaimed.
These verses is interpreted as what will happen in the Last Days. After 1878 years (1948 – 70 CE) the return of Israel to the Jewish people cannot constitute “returned to his own property”. Family records were not kept of property ownership, so no one can return to their own property.
Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me, because the Lord has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,
Here the concept of Melchizedek is invoked. It is Melchizedek himself that will proclaim the good news to the poor, the broken hearted, the captives and the prisoners. This is a very Messiah like concept, written over 100 years before Jesus was supposed to be born. But unlike Christian theology a specific time and specific people were to receive this “Good News”. During the 10th Jubilee Year (500 years in the future) those who were predestined to be atoned for would receive the “Good News”. So not just any poor or broken-hearted, or captive, or prisoner – no, only the Sons of Light would receive the “Good News”.
Isa 61:2 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn,
This is the verse that the author(s) change to fit their own desires. It is no longer “the Lord’s favor”, they change it to “Melchizedek’s favor”. Now this gives the believer something to hope for that is not just a vague “sometime in the future near the End of Days”.
Psalms 82:1 God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the “gods”:
The Yahad’s version of this verse is also slightly different than our NIV translation. The Yahad believed that a second figure was to presided in YHWH’s presence and give judgment.
Psalms 7:7-8 Let the assembled people gather around you. Ruled over them from on high; let the Lord judge the people. Judge me, Oh Lord, according to my righteousness, according to my integrity, O Most High.
They back up Psalm 82:1 with this verse claiming that one would rule from on high. Their interpretation is that this person would be Melchizedek.
Psalms 82:2 “How long will you defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? Selah
This introduces the evils of mankind and the source of that evil: Belial…not the Christian Satan. Men’s desire for evil will punished by Melchizedek himself at this time (500 years in the future).
Isa 61:3 and provide for those who grieve and Zion – to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of one of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of the spirit of despair. They will be called the oaks of righteousness, a planting of the Lord for the display of his splendor.
Here is a promise for those who live righteously during that future time. Melchizedek will be the one who bestows the crown, provides the oil and garments.
Isa 52:7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, “Your God reigns!”
Here the “mountains are prophets and they will proclaim the truth to all Israel. Notice that in hindsight this did not happen since between 300 – 500 AD the Israelite nation had crumbled.
Dan 9:26 After the sixty two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations has been decreed.
This “Anointed One” is the same as the one from Isa 61:2 who provides the vengeance of YHWH and comforts “all who mourn”. The “Anointed One” will teach the people about the Truth and eternity. He will also be instrumental in take Belial’s dominion and return it to the Sons of Light.
Isa 52:7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, “Your God reigns!”
Here Zion is those who turn to Melchizedek and are the ones predestined to follow him. They will differ from the ways of man by proclaiming good news, peace, good tidings, and salvation.
Lev 25:9 Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the 10th day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout your land.
The Scroll ends without explaining this last verse. But it is obvious that this should be taken as the sign that the prophecy written in this Scroll has taken place when the people here the trumpet sound.
As with most “prophecy”, this one was written for a future generation. This one happens to be the one that would have existed in the newly Christianized Roman Empire. Basically about the time when Theodosius died and the Roman Empire was split into two distinct providences: the Eastern and the Western. So if this prophecy was “true” a very important question is raised. Which “Church” is the correct church and which one follows Belial? Would this be the Catholic Church or the Eastern Orthodox? The implications are astounding, for the Protestant and the Evangelical Churches of the US are based on the Catholic branch.
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John’s Final Words
October 14, 2009, 9:59 am by dc-agape.
John Chapter 21
This post will be the final post from the Gospel of John. John does not write about the ascension of Jesus. I will say more about this in the next paragraph. He also writes a prophecy of Jesus that took place in his own lifetime…and just happens to have taken place before he wrote this Gospel. That will be one of the major topics of this post. The third most interesting thing that occurs in this Gospel is the number and locations of Jesus’ appearances after his crucifixion. John, the only Apostle to be an eyewitness to everything that happened to Jesus, only records three visits.
John ends his Gospel having left out the ascension of Jesus. As far as John is concerned, this event, if it happened, was not import enough to record. The other possibility is a John was not present at the ascension. But it seems difficult to believe, since our only sources come from two men: John Mark (a follower of Peter while in Rome) and Luke (a follower of Paul). In both these reports the ascension of Jesus is recorded as having happened in the presence of all the believers. So what is John not include this very important Christian concept? Why is it not important? Of all the miracles, attributed to Jesus, is not the ascension of Jesus by far the most important? It almost seems as if, the apostles themselves, either did not experience witnessing this, or but nothing about it! It is only the followers of the original disciples that record this event. Even the Gospel of Matthew does not record the event. Relying on secondhand (or third hand) records seems very dangerous to the non-believer. Stories always get manipulated, distorted, or exaggerated with extended retelling. This seems to be the same case.
In the Gospel of John the prophecy and the death of Peter is record. Unless, the death of Peter is a later addition, the date of writing this gospel can be insured to have occurred after Peter’s death in 67 AD. As a result, recording a prophecy after the prophecy has occurred weakens the power of the prophecy. Adding that this book was recorded some 35 to 40 years after the prophecy, the memory of the specific words Jesus used should be taken into account. To make matters worse, our records of how and when Peter died are sketchy at best. The truly are Traditions of Men and not sanctified holy script.
John ends his gospel with an interesting twist:
John 21:25 Jesus did many of the things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
This most certainly is an exaggeration. Recording the events of a ministry that lasted less than four years would not create that many books. But we are told:
John 21:24 This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.
This is a very odd addition to a personally written document. Basically he is saying, since I wrote these down they must be true. To the non-believer, this is arrogant, this does not prove the trustworthiness of the document, and adds nothing to validate the testimony given in this Gospel.
To the non-believer these issues are not solved by faith. They only add more confusion, lack of unity in the Gospels, and create more questions that cannot be answered. If these Gospels were inspired by an all-powerful Holy Spirit it would seem that these problems would not have occurred. If these Gospels were inspired by the loving YHWH, who wants everyone to believe, these problems would not occur. Instead, we have different stories (not different perspectives), Tall Tales, differing accounts, disorganized chronology, and difficulty tracing Jesus’ actual route used in his ministries. I do hope that I get the chance to make a full scale map showing an organized chronological description of Jesus’ ministries. Unfortunately, it will be very difficult since only the Gospel of John describes the additional trips to Jerusalem.
This is my last post from the New Testament for the time being. My next posts will be from the Dead Sea Scrolls. I have still not decided which order I will present the scrolls that I want to focus on. But They Will Include: the Book of Secrets, Charter of a Jewish Sectarian Association, Charter for Israel in the Last Days, the Book of Jubilees, Work with the citation of Jubilees, the Secret of the Way Things Are, and the Temple Scroll. This may seem like a large number of documents to cover before I start back into the Nag Hammadi Library. But no actuality, many of these scrolls are either very short or very fragmented. The total number of pages covered in the seven scrolls is actually only 105 pages. Many of the pages are introduction to the scrolls. Since the meaning of the scrolls are not as complex as the gospels, and that print type is much larger than in the New Testament, the pages should not take that long. In actuality, only the Charter of a Jewish Sectarian Association, the Book of Jubilees, Secret of the Way Things Are, and the Temple Scroll have any length to them at all.
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Which Gospel is an Eyewitness?
October 12, 2009, 9:06 am by dc-agape.
John Chapter 19
This post will describe some of the issues with John’s account verse the Synoptic Gospels and the Traditions of Men. My last posts covered some issues with the prophecies about Jesus; death, events that occurred before the Sanhedrin and before Pilate. This post will be an introduction to the problems in the records of the four Gospels about Jesus’ death and burial.
I will start in the Gospel of John, for obvious reasons:
John 19:35 The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that you tells the truth, and testifies so that you may also believe.
So we have one man’s testimony that proves these events occurred. As of I pointed out before the Gospel of Luke is at least a third hand record of the events (the disciples → Paul → Luke). I’ve also pointed out that the Gospel of Mark and the second hand (Peter → John Mark). The Gospel of Matthew is a little more complex but there is no record of Matthew being at the events described in chapter 19 of the Gospel of John. In fact, Matthew would seem to have been one the deserted Jesus at the rest:
Matthew 26:56 but this has all taken place that writings of the prophets might be fulfilled.” Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.
Even looking at all four gospels we see that only the number of people witnessed the crucifixion. In the Gospel of Matthew it was only Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James Joses, and mother of Zebedee’s sons. In the Gospel of Mark it is the same Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, but this time the only other name mentioned is a woman named Solome (possibly the wife of Zebedee). In the Gospel of Luke no actual names are mentioned:
Luke 23:49 But all those who knew him, including the women who had followed him from Galilee, stood at a distance, watching these events.
If we want to be generous we can claim that all the apostles for their based on this verse. But is that true? No other gospel records it this way; in fact, the others mention names and do not make it apparent that anyone else witnessed the death of Jesus. In the Gospel of John the only people mentioned are Jesus’ mother, her sister Clopas, Mary Magdalene, and we assumed the Apostle John. From reading these four gospels, we have no idea who was actually witness to the crucifixion! The only one we can be certain of is Mary Magdalene. Yet we have no record of these events from Mary Magdalene’s perspective. Worse, is that we have only one Gospel that could be held up as a true eyewitness, the Gospel of John. As a result, in actuality we do not have two eyewitness accounts of the events occurring during the crucifixion.
So what about the burial of Jesus? That one seems to be more accurate. Starting with the Gospel of John we see that .Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus were responsible for the burial of Jesus’ body. They even brought 75 pounds of spices to prepare the body for burial. In the Gospel of Matthew again it is Joseph of Arimathea, but Nicodemus seems to not be present. Instead, Mary Magdalene and another Mary were present. In the Gospel of Mark, it is even more confusing. Again, Joseph of Arimathea was involved, Nicodemus is again missing, Mary Magdalene is prominent, and this time we understand that the other Mary was the mother of Joses. For some reason, even though in the Gospel of John, Joseph had already prepared the body, both of the Marys and Solome came after the Sabbath to repeat the preparations for burial. In the Gospel of Luke, we are told that only “the women who had come with Jesus from Galilee” followed Joseph of Arimathea to the tomb. Again, they left to prepare spices and perfumes for the burial of the body. Wouldn’t be pretty obvious to anyone following Joseph and Nicodemus carrying both a dead body and 75 pounds of spices that the body of Jesus had been prepared for burial? Would not the odor of 75 pounds of myrrh and aloes be obvious to the women? Why in the Synoptic Gospels would there be this tremendous difference from the only eyewitness account.
To put it more plainly, none of the men following Jesus were involved in the burial. In all four cases, each of the Gospels, secondhand information is the best that we have. Not a single record of Joseph of Arimathea, Nicodemus, or Mary Magdalene was canonized by the Roman Church in 312AD. Yet these are the only three people who actually knew where Jesus’ body was buried. We cannot be certain, from the four Gospels, that anyone else knew the location of Jesus body. The four “eyewitness” reports differ so drastically, and are suspect of being actual reports, that only the Gospel of John can be taken seriously. To the non-believer, these “differing” perspectives do not add legitimacy to the story; on the contrary, they make the story more unbelievable. Now that the Gospel of Mary Magdalene has been discovered in the Nag Hammadi Library it would be nice to have a fuller picture of what actually occurred during the crucifixion and burial of Jesus. I truly look forward to reading more of the gospels written by the disciples of Jesus recorded in the Nag Hammadi libraries. Even though these gospels were not accepted by the Orthodox Roman Church, they are important in understanding the original followers of Jesus.
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Who Actually Witnessed the Trial?
October 9, 2009, 5:38 pm by dc-agape.
John Chapter 19
This post will describe some of the issues with John’s account verse the Synoptic Gospels and the Traditions of Men. My last post covered some issues with the events before the Sanhedrin. In this post I want to introduce some questions about the events before Pilate and Herod. I will have to leave the events of Jesus’ death and burial till the next post.
Since only four Gospels have been canonized since 320 AD, we have four “eye-witnesses” to the events leading up to Jesus’ crucifixion. But as it turns out some issues do crop up with this Traditional view of events. Some “eye-witness” accounts add things that the other “reports” leave out, others suggest unforgettable events that are eliminated from all the other reports. In the events with Pilate and Herod just such things occur.
In the Gospel of John (the only eyewitness to the “trial”) there is not a single mention of Herod! Without the non-eyewitness accounts of the trial we would not believe today that Herod was involved or that he was even in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus’ death. In fact, only the Gospel of Luke (recorded by a follower of Paul) was Herod even mentioned at all. Neither the Gospels of Matthew (another “actual” witness) or Mark (the most likely first gospel recorded) describe Herod’s involvement in the trial of Jesus. Why would John, Mark, and Matthew leave out such an event? Herod was the second most important person in the Roman occupation of Israel…leaving him out would be like leaving out the Ambassador to Iraq when describing the formation of the Iraqi constitution! More importantly, why would Paul (through Luke) add something that Matthew, Mark, and John left out? To believe that Paul was at the trial would again attempt to make the lifespan of the occupied Israeli longer than the average lifespan of a Roman Citizen (40 years). For Paul to have died in ~60 AD he would have had to be less than 15 years old or have been much older than the average person when he died. Since we are told that the Sanhedrin was made up of elders and chief priest, a young Paul would not have been in attendance. So the Gospel of Luke is actually third-hand knowledge at best, not the most authoritative source! So actually for the events of the trial we have only one actual source…the Gospel of John. The other three Gospels are merely Traditions of Men recorded as Authority.
So what does this mean for Christians? It is actually very simple:
John 19:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But my kingdom is from another place.”
The Kingdom of God (Jesus) is not of this world…Christian have no say in the governance of the world’s nations! There cannot be a Christian Nation here on this planet, for Jesus himself, told Pilate that his kingdom did not exist on Earth.
There are two other troubling issues with the Gospel account of Jesus’ trial. That would be of the “custom” to release a prisoner on the Passover holiday. Two problems exist with this “custom”: first, no record of such a custom exists in Roman or Jewish histories of the time, and second, Barabbas (a known rebel) would not have had the option of parole! Why is it that neither the Roman nor the Jewish histories tell us about this custom? Were all the records from both nations destroyed or tampered with? There aren’t any! Not a single one records this custom. The historical accuracy of the Gospels is questionable at best, but when they cannot be verified by outside sources, it certainly begins to look a lot like a mythology. The concept that a known traitor to Rome would be released by a Roman overseer of Israel seems unlikely. The Roman Empire looked very unfavorably on political enemies. In fact, crucifixion was the choice way to eliminate the slaves, pirates, and the enemies of the State. As a result of this information, Jesus would not have been crucified; he was not an enemy of the State as Pilate decreed. But Barabbas would not have been freed, either, for he was an enemy of the State!
To the non-believer the accuracy of these Gospels is highly unlikely. With John being the only source of information about these events, the missing verification, and the contradictory evidence John does provide, it was highly unlikely to have taken place the way it is recorded in the Gospels. When you add the unlikely lifespan of these “authors” to the mix the tales become even bigger – they become Tall Tales from a superstitious group of religious hopefuls. The only person who knew the truth about this part of Jesus’ life and recorded these events – died as an old man in Ephesus. But even the events of the crucifixion are to be questioned. I will do exactly that in the next post.
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Eyewitness and Real Life
October 8, 2009, 8:14 am by dc-agape.
John Chapter 19
This post will describe some of the issues with John’s account verse the Synoptic Gospels and the Traditions of Men. Since only four Gospels have been canonized since 320 AD, we have four “eye-witnesses” to the events leading up to Jesus’ crucifixion. But as it turns out some issues do crop up with this Traditional view of events. Events before the Sanhedrin, Pilate, Herod, his death, and burial are a jumble of different “points-of-view”. Some add things that the other “reports” leave out, others suggest unforgettable events that are eliminated from all the other reports.
Let’s start with the Sanhedrin. The Synoptic Gospels tell us that Peter followed Jesus into the Sanhedrin. Only the Gospel of John tells us that John was the one who got Peter in! The Synoptic Gospels forget that John was even there. If the Gospel of John did not exist, we would believe that Peter (by himself) just strolled right on in behind Jesus…but this is not what happened. Why would all three of the Synoptic Gospels leave out such a detail? We are told in the Gospel of John that Peter need special permission to enter! We know that only Peter (and John) followed Jesus to the Sanhedrin:
Matt 26:56 But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.
So from the beginning of the Sanhedrin trial the Synoptic Gospels of Matthew and Luke are just hearsay. At least the Gospel of Mark is recorded by a close friend of Peter, while the Gospel of John is as close as we can get to a first-person eyewitness account (recorded 20 -50 years after the events). That would certainly explain why John is suspiciously left out of the Synoptic Gospel. The Synoptic Gospels were not written by men who were actually at the scene of the events.
On the topic of recording these Gospels, one must remember the life expectancy of citizens of the Roman Empire was less than 40 years and may have been as low as 25 years! Even for John (or Peter to transcribe to John Mark) to have written this Gospel the date of the 50 is pushing the limits of sanitary conditions. For John (or Peter) to still be alive in the 50’s he would have had to be between 15 – 18 years of age when he began to follow Jesus. For John to have written his Gospel in the 80’s and to have died 68 years after the crucifixion John would have lived twice as long (possibly up to 4 times as long) as the average citizen of Roman and he was not even a Citizen! A modern example of this is not someone living to be 120 years old, no it would be living to the age of between 140 – 280 years of age.
Well it doesn’t look like I will reach the other questions about these events in this post. But just bringing these two perspectives up I think initial the reason that most non-believers have difficulty believing the written word of the only source material we have about the life and times of Jesus. It certainly leads to a suspicion of the trial, crucifixion, and resurrection of Jesus. Now of course the True Believer, will say that there was nothing wrong with a 15 year old following Jesus, and becoming the most important man in the early Church (Peter or John). But claiming that these men lived into their 60’s is pushing the limits of credibility. And as to my first point, about eyewitnesses, the True Believer would only say that they were told how the events occurred by Peter and John. But if that were the case, why record hearsay as authoritative documentation? Should not the Gospels explain that only two of the Apostles actually witness the events leading up to the crucifixion (and the crucifixion itself)?
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Prophecies & Freewill
October 7, 2009, 9:05 am by dc-agape.
John Chapter 19
I am going to split this chapter into two separate posts. One will be about the “prophecies” that where fulfilled in Jesus’ death. The second post will describe some of the issues with John’s account verse the Synoptic Gospels and the Traditions of Men. Four prophecies were fulfilled in the Gospel of John. Yet once again, for prophecy to be accurate…freewill must be suspended. Or Scripture must be taken out of context to make it fit the circumstances. Let us see which is more likely.
The first prophecy is this one:
John 18:24 “Let’s not tear it,” they said to one another. “Let’s decide by lot who will get it.” This happened that the scriptures might be fulfilled which said, “They divided my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.” So this is what the soldiers did.
This passage is supposed to come from the Book of Psalms 22:18. Surprisingly this is exactly what that verse says. But if one reads the entire Psalm one sees that this was not about Jesus. Take a look at this beginning:
Psalms 22:2 Oh my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, but night, and am not silent.
Psalms 22: 20-21 Deliver my life from the sword, the precious life from the power of the dogs. Rescue me from the mouth of the lions; save me from the horns of the wild oxen.
Only by taking this Psalms out of context can one apply specific verses of this Psalms to the death of Jesus. Verses 20-21 specifically indicate that King David was concerned about evil men, while dogs, lions, and wild oxen. Obviously, Jesus was not exposed to dogs, lions, or oxen. So grabbing one verse in claiming that it is prophecy is only taking that verse out of context. But even if we give the benefit of the doubt to this being a prophecy a bigger problem occurs. This particular prophecy relates to how the soldiers treat Jesus’ clothing. Is there obeying prophecy they have no freewill. They did not get to choice to fulfill this prophecy. As a result, YHWH at any time can suspend freewill. Hence, we can never tell if we are acting under freewill or under YHWH suspension of freewill.
Another possible prophecy fulfilled in this chapter is this one:
John 18:28 later, knowing that all was now complete, and so that the scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, “I’m thirsty.”
This supposed prophecy comes from Psalms 69:21 which says:
Psalms 69:21 they put gall inlet food and gave the vinegar for my first.
But let’s take a look at the following verse is in this Psalms:
Psalms 69:22-25 Let the table set before them become a snare; may become a retribution and a trap. Many there eyes the darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever. Pour out your wrath on them; let your fierce anger over take them. May their place the deserted, that there be no one to dwell in their tents.
Is this the loving Jesus? This is a direct combination to the “prophecy” verse. Should we believe that in the last moments of Jesus’ life he became as vindictive as the most vile human nature can provide? Or should we realize that this verse was taken out of context. Again, the other possibility is that the guards had no freewill. They had to obey the prophecy. Once again this would indicate that YHWH can and does suspend freewill arbitrarily. Hence, we can never tell if we are acting under freewill or under YHWH suspension of that freewill.
The third prophecy is found in this verse in John:
John 19:34 instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus’ side with a spear, bring a sudden flow of blood and water.
Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grief bitterly for him as one grieves for firstborn son.
Again, this “prophecy” has been taken out of context. This verse talks about the people who have pierced Jesus as the ones who mourn. No indication that the Romans mourned Jesus’ death. They certainly did not mourn with the bitterness of the loss of a firstborn son. Again, if we give the benefit of the doubt to this being a fulfill prophecy we end up with freewill being arbitrarily denied. Hence, we can never tell if we are acting under freewill or under YHWH suspension of that freewill.
The final supposed prophecy is here:
John 19: 36 these things happen so the scriptures would be fulfilled: (delete that “not one of his bones will be broken,”
This prophecy comes from the book of Exodus 12:46:
Exodus 12:46 “It must be eaten in one house; take none of the meat outside of the house. Do not break any of the bones. The whole community of Israel must celebrate it.
The crucifixion occurred outside so the beginning of the verse has already been compromised. The last sentence of the verse has also been compromised, the whole community did not celebrate this event. So once again a “prophecy” has been taken out of context. Again, if we give the benefit of the doubt to this being a fulfill prophecy we end Up with freewill being arbitrarily denied. Hence, we can never tell if we are acting under freewill or under YHWH suspension of that freewill.
To the non-believer, these so called “prophecies” are very suspicious. There without doubt taken out of context, and as a result, are questionable at best. Worst though, is the concept that they are true prophecy. If they really are prophecy, and numerous people during the crucifixion of Jesus had their freewill removed. Even if this removal was only temporary, this indicates that YHWH can do so at any time, for any reason, and we (puny humans) are completely helpless in these cases. The whole argument of freewill becomes a mute topic with this understanding. If humans can be manipulated as play toys to a supreme being at any arbitrary moment freewill does not exist. The concept of prophecy only strengthens this concept. For prophecy indicates that the future has already been recorded. Prophecy also indicates that the outcome of our choices have already been recorded. Hence, it may feel like we have freewill, but in the end we are just actors on a stage as indicated by Shakespeare:
Jaques:
All the world’s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages.
As You Like It Act 2, scene 7, 139–143
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More Traditions of Men
October 5, 2009, 7:05 pm by dc-agape.
John Chapter 18
This is the chapter where Jesus is “betrayed”, Peter denies knowing Jesus, and Barabbas (an Israeli freedom fighter/terrorist) was set free. Obviously, some of these things are questionable at best. All three are veiled in Christian mysticism. Of course, to the common believer all three of these events are completely logical, completely under YHWH control, and completely without question having occurred. But is this true?
Let’s start with a “betrayal”. Was it truly betrayal? Jesus was certainly prepared for it. Does that mean that there was a supernatural power behind the events? Or does Occam’s razor come into play? For Jesus to know what was going to happen the easiest and simplest explanation was that Judas and Jesus had easily planned this. The olive garden (”because Jesus had often met there with his disciples”) was actually not used very often. Using all four Gospels, Jesus was rarely in Jerusalem. Only the Gospel of John does Jesus into Jerusalem more than once. His last stay only lasted six day (John 12:1). And not once did the disciples go to the Mount of Olives during this period of time. So the verse that says:
John 18:2 Now Judas, who betrayed him, knew the place, because Jesus had also met there with his disciples.
Nowhere in the Gospels does it describe Jesus using the Mount of Olives as a common location for Jesus’ teachings. Adding to that six days does not single out a single location, unmentioned in the gospels, as a place where Judas could be certain that Jesus would be. The only way Judas could know this was if Jesus had told him to meet him there. Jesus certainly had everything under control, because he planned it that way. No supernatural control was needed. The other option is that Judas had no freewill.
More interestingly, is the case of Peter fulfilling Jesus’ prophecy of his denial. For Jesus to get that right down to the exact moment:
John 18:27 Again he denied it, and at that moment a rooster began to grow.
This would imply that Jesus certainly knew to the finest detail what Peter would do (the rooster crowing as Peter denied knowing Jesus). If we take this passage literally, then as I’ve said before, Peter did not have freewill. This would mean that YHWH can and does remove freewill arbitrarily. As a result, we pour humans can never tell whether we’re acting under our own freewill or being forced by a supreme being. Anything that I do, saying, or believe is subjects to the arbitrary decision of YHWH to interfere. Saying that YHWH can but doesn’t, does not solve the fact that at any arbitrary moment YHWH to interfere at his whim.
The story of Barabbas adds another interesting twist to this chapter. No other document, Roman or Israeli, mentions the name Barabbas. To make matters worse, no documents, Roman or Israeli, even mentions that Pilate ever offered the Jews the opportunity to release a prisoner at the Passover. Both of these cases make the story of the release of Barabbas questionable. Was even more detrimental to this story is what the Gospels claim about Barabbas. If he truly was an instigator and a murderer, he was certainly a Zionist. Pilate, as the highest ranking Roman in Jerusalem, would never free such a man. When you add all these historical perspectives, this passage (recorded in all four Gospels) begins to look very pale to say the least. The other option is that Pilate had no freewill.
To the non-believer, this chapter implies three things: a different relationship between Jesus and Judas that the Traditions of Men have implied, the lack of freewill that the Traditions of Men imply, and the questionability of the legitimacy of the Gospels. Again, I will last a simple question: why are there so many Traditions of Men included into the Word of God? These incidences of questionable interpretation put a cloud of doubt over the entire Bible.
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Where Did All These Traditions of Men Come From?
October 3, 2009, 11:47 am by dc-agape.
John Chapter 17
Every once in a while a chapter in the Gospel of John is packed with amazing quotes from the teaching of Jesus. In this particular chapter, even though Jesus is praying to YHWH, he brings up six important concepts that relate to being a true follower of Jesus. Some of these concepts are: the meeting of eternal life, freewill (again!), prophecy, separation from the world, unity, and YHWH’s love.
The meaning of eternal life is described in Jesus’ opening to YHWH:
John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
It’s very interesting that to Jesus eternal life has nothing to do with what happens after death. Eternal life, in Jesus’ description here, is entirely based on knowing spiritual knowledge. It is true in other parts that Jesus describes an afterlife. But here Jesus is describing the eternal life and knowledge is the main component of this concept. This is very different from modern Christian theology on eternal life. “Praying Jesus into your heart” that is not knowledge of Jesus or YHWH, it is something much more complex. As a result would cannot “pray Jesus into your heart”, for that is obviously a Tradition of Man. Any person who preaches this concept is a faults teacher at should not be listened to. Even more TrueChirstians™ should be extremely vocal about the evils of this false teaching.
Jesus again focuses on freewill. In this prayer he does not do it once, but numerous times:
John 17:2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him.
John 17:6 I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
John 17:24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and two see my glory, the glory you get have given me because you love to be before the creation of the world.
Three different times in this chapter Jesus uses the phrase “those you have given me”. This is not directed towards the apostles, nor the disciples of Jesus’ time, it is directed towards those who believe in him. From this chapter, it is quite clear, that YHWH chooses who will believe. As a result freewill does not exist! How many times does Jesus have to repeat this concept before Christians understand it? Freewill is a concept brought about by the Traditions of Men. To make this very clear, and in the debate, search the New Testament for the word freewill. Nowhere will you find a signal author mention the word “freewill”. TrueChirstians™ should be extremely vocal about the evils of this false teaching.
For another example of how freewill does not exist we only have to look at Judas Iscariot. Jesus uses an obscure verse from the Old Testament to claim that Judas was fulfilling prophecy:
John 17:12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by the name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that scripture would be fulfilled.
For the entire Christian religion is based on the fulfillment of scriptural prophecy. Without Judas fulfilling this prophecy Christianity would not exist, for Jesus would not have died. As a result, the false doctrine that Judas betrayed Jesus is in error. It is a Tradition of Man. Judas was forced, by prophecy, to act exactly the way he did. He had no choice, as a result, he had no freewill.
Another important topic that Jesus brings up is being separate from the world. He prays that the apostles, the disciples, and all believers will be “sanctified by the truth”. This means that they are protected from the evil in the world. Here again, Jesus is describing how Christians did not belong to the world. The world should hate them for their message not their hypocrisy. The world should hate them for worshiping YHWH, not the Traditions of Men. The world should hate them for the love they have, not for the bigotry and hatred that they espouse. TrueChirstians™ should be extremely vocal about the evils of this false teaching.
One of my most important understandings of the bible and Jesus’ is teachings is the unity of YHWH, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Church. It is something we certainly do not see today. With 46,000 denominations you can certainly say that Christianity is diverse, but you certainly cannot saying that it is in unity. Again the traditions of men have taught that this disunity is acceptable. Again, TrueChirstians™ should be extremely vocal about the evils of this false teaching.
The final thing I find interesting about this prayer is the relationship that slain YHWH’s love and humanity. YHWH’s love is for Jesus not humanity…only by being one with Jesus does one receive YHWH’s love:
John 17:26 I have made you know the to them, and we’ll continue to make you know in order that their love you have for me maybe in them and that I myself maybe in them.
If the only way humanity can experience this “loving” relationship is through obeying Jesus’ teachings. Otherwise, YHWH has no love for his creation. Clearly, he only loves his son. The concept of a loving YHWH is mistaken, just look at the Old Testament. He may have protected the Israelites when they obeyed him, but more often than not be punished them harshly at every minor infraction. That certainly is not love, it is not even fatherly love. Now we know, that Yahweh his son not humanity. Only by being a follower of Jesus will YHWH exhibit this “loving” personality.
To the unbeliever, this chapter is packed with proofs that Christianity has become a Tradition of Man. It is obvious that Christians do not obey (love) Jesus, instead they love the comfort, the security, and the traditions that they experience in the modern churches. No wonder Christianity seems to be in its death throes. But to remove the Traditions of Men from the words of Jesus may be impossible. For even the canonization of the holy bible may be suspect. When did traditions of men get introduced into the teachings of Christianity. One thing we know for sure is that the world stopped hating Christians and even began aiding Christianity as early as 320 BC. I say this because the Roman Empire began to spread Christianity across the node world instead of persecuting the believers of Jesus. Yet some believers were still persecuted and these were the Gnostic Christians, who just happen to focus on Jesus’ teachings instead of the teachings of Paul
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The Big Picture
October 2, 2009, 10:09 pm by dc-agape.
John Chapter 16:5 – 33
Unlike the previous chapter, this one is solely for the believer, specifically the Apostles and the followers of Jesus during the 30’s AD. The only thing related to the modern Church is the joy that followed (and should still be present) in the Church. This joy is based on the presence of the Councilor (Holy Spirit) which would not appear until after Jesus’ death on the cross.
The concept and the purpose of the Holy Spirit are outlined in this chapter, even though the purpose of the Holy Spirit is only briefly mentioned. The first purpose of the Spirit is to convict the entire world. I wonder when this will happen. It certainly did not happen until after the European nations began the colonization of the Americas or Eastern Asia. It certainly did not happen during the Crusades! Supposedly, the Spirit brought the knowledge of humanities sin, Jesus’ righteousness, and the judgment of Satan (the prince of the world). The concept of Satan is new to the world at this point. The OT does not refer to Satan or the prince of the world, at any time or any place. Jesus introduces this concept, even though it was not new to the Romans or the Greeks. And please do not bring up Isaiah 14:12-15! This entire passage starting in Isaiah 13:1-14:23 is one single oracle. It is taken out of context if one uses it to describe Satan. Read the whole passage not the single short fragment! And don’t even try the Ezekiel 28:12-19 either. This passage again has been taken out of context, read the whole passage: Ezekiel 28:1-19. And make sure you understand the meaning of “son of man”. In the Book of Ezekiel this term is describing Ezekiel…not Jesus (Ezekiel 2:1).
But an evil spiritual ruler of the world was not new to the Greeks or Romans. Agra Mainyu is the evil side of Zoroastrianism – Babylonian religion during the period that the Jews were in exile in…Babylonia! One must remember that in the 6th century BC Cyrus the Great controlled most of “the known world”. By the 2nd century BC, Greek and Zoroastrianism had combined into the now fully familiar Greek mythology.
But what was the joy that the Holy Spirit would bring to the followers of Jesus? It is the relationship that Christians will have directly with YHWH. Since the Holy Spirit is YHWH and was brought to humans after Jesus’ death, Jesus’ followers could know what Jesus knew and that was a relationship with YHWH. Through the Holy Spirit and Jesus this relationship with YHWH provided security from the evils of the world. This also provided direct communication with YHWH:
John 16:23 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
Simply put, the joy that the Holy Spirit brought was having a Councilor to provide all the security, knowledge, and relationships that Jesus had.
To the non-believer (sinner) looking at this chapter brings one thing to the forefront. Neither the concepts of the virgin birth nor the savior nor the devil were new (all were part of Zoroastrianism. But all three were new to Judaism…and brought to a forefront by Jesus. No wonder the Jews despised Jesus! He was corrupting their religion with the religion of their captors during the Babylonian Exile. This was worse than Hellenization of the Israeli religion! It also indicates that Jesus was not teaching anything that was new. He required following the OT and added components of both Greek and Babylonian religions to form a new religion: Christianity. To be certain, this new religion was better than any of the three old religions…but it is was just that: a new religion. It is truly amazing when the entire history of the world is combined and compared to specific national histories! New knowledge, new understandings, and new perspectives are introduced. One cannot live in isolation and one cannot make assumptions based on that isolation of events, histories, or interpretations. The whole picture must be seen and accepted, you cannot disregard the pieces that do not fit your personal desires or beliefs.
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